The Church Militant

We must battle against Satan and this world.  But we do not battle as the world battles.The world battles with automatic weaponry to destroy lives, with rocket launchers capable of destroying buildings and all within, with bombs capable of obliterating whole cities and the population within. 

The Church Militant has a far more powerful weapon than weapons of mass destruction. We have Christ’s gospel transforming hatred to love, death to life, hell to heaven. Instead of wiping out cities and the population, we establish congregations redeemed with the blood of Christ.

We pick up the sword of the Spirit, the Word of God, with which we crush Satan, which breathes life into souls gasping for spiritual breath.  Satan likes to distract us. He knows our sinful nature and all our weaknesses.  He knows how to penetrate our defenses. What are your weaknesses?  How does Satan use you to get his way with you? Is it alcohol, drugs, pornography, greed, lust, anger, laziness?  What is his plan to distract you, leading you away from God’s love in Christ, leading you down the broad path of destruction? Do you feel overwhelmed?  Are you at a point that you no longer can resist him? Do you easily cave in? What can you do? 

You have the sword of the spirit, the Word of God.  Go to it.  Pick it up. Read the psalms.  Read the gospel of Mark, the book of Romans.  Discover anew God’s love for you and sinners all.  Refresh yourself with the assurance that your sins are forgiven. Discover the truth that you are God’s child, washed with Jesus’ precious blood in your baptism, and that nothing can separate you from the love of God that is manifested in Christ Jesus, your Lord and Savior.

Armies of this world must train, build themselves up and become experts with the weapons given them. We as the church militant must train and exercise with prayer, daily devotions and with the weapons given us, the Word of God, our baptism, the refreshment of the Lord’s Supper. 

How are you doing?

PONDER EPHESIANS 6:12-13

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.

Point to Ponder 237

A big problem that is looming before us is not only the government waste, but unfaithfulness of both students and employees.  Thus, this point.

YOU SHOULD NOT STEAL

          This commandment has consequences when ignored. From snitching cookies without permission to fudging figures on our income and everything in between is sin. 

Actually we’re amazed when someone returns a wallet to the rightful owner, some type of reward is anticipated; however, it’s exactly what God expects us to do.

          We are to respect and protect other people’s property rather than wasting, destroying or taking advantage of our neighbor.  When we look in the mirror, what kind of a person do we see?  Do we cheat on tests?  Do we fail to do the best we can where we’re employed?  Do we appreciate that whether a student, employee of industry or government, we’re not there to serve ourselves, but to labor for our Lord, who has not only created us, but has given health, energy, talents by which we are to use to His glory.

          If guilty, Christ carried our sins to the cross redeeming us from all sin.  Praise and serve Him.

 

PONDER

It is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful.

1 Corinthians 4:2

Point to Ponder 236

After a discussion with a counselor friend of mine, it's apparent that in-spite of advancements in technology with increased comfort factors, our morality is down the drain.  Thus, this Point to Ponder.  Bob

FAMILY LIFE

Newspapers have contrasting reports.  As new parents are gladdened to see the birth of their child reported, so also tears flow forth when reading the obit of one near and dear. 

In the same manner failures are listed under divorces.  It’s said that there is nothing more traumatic than to suffer the death of a spouse.  This can be challenged in light of the trauma caused by divorce.  When marriage is dissolved by death, this is God’s doing.  When dissolved by divorce, that’s man’s doing. 

The Lord said, “Whatsoever God has joined together, let not man put asunder.”  Matthew 19;6  Men and women corrupt their marriages through their own selfishness and sinfulness. 

The basis of marriage is love, a love like unto God’s love, a forgiving love, a love serving one another, an example of love for your children.

If you would like to learn more about Family Life Under Christ, COME TO THE WELS.

 

PONDER

“So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself.”  Ephesians 5:28

 

 

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Point to Ponder 235

Unfortunately it happens.  Someone in the congregation starts a malicious rumor that catches on fire and runs through the congregation.  The destruction such rumors cause can become unrepairable.  Thus the following Point.  Bob

BACKDRAFT

Always there's a hellish fire in a congregation.  Satan relentlessly attacks biblical truth. That's why all Christians must be well versed in God's Word to stop the wagging tongues. Attacks against the solid teachings of Scripture are obvious.  What's not so easy to quench is the back draft created by gossip, the repeating of unsupported information.

A Christian day school teacher was leaving church nearing midnight about the same time the pastor closed his office.  He asked if she had her car. She didn't.  For safety reasons, he escorted her to her apartment not far away.  A member saw the two and started a story, which resulted in both pastor and teacher having to resign - an unquenchable fire.  Only Satan was grinning.

The raging back draft of gossip destroys relationships, reputations as well as congregations.  When there's concern, Jesus would have us speak privately in love.  Not gossip, but rather loving attention to truth building and strengthening a congregation with God’s love in Christ.

 

PONDER

He who would love life and see good days, Let him refrain his tongue from evil, And his lips from speaking deceit.  1 Peter 3:10

 

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Point to Ponder 234

Dear Brothers and sisters in Christ.  I have learned through my experiences that prayer is effectual in every situation.  We all need to be connected with our Lord always.  There are so many needs.  Let's storm the throne of grace confident that our Lord hears and answers.  Bob

STORMING THE THRONE OF GRACE

Dare we demand a specific blessing of God?   A lady requested I pray that she’d obtain the bulk of the family’s inheritance. An inheritance is a temporal matter belonging to God’s discretion. But what can we demand of God?

Here’s the secret:  “This is the assurance we have in approaching God, that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.” 1 Jn. 5:14.  What then is God’s will?  God will have us obey His commandments.  Finding this impossible for men, God sent His only Son Jesus Christ to be the sacrificial Lamb of God to take away our sins.  Thus, “God…wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.”  1 Tim 2:3. 

When a loved one strays from the faith, storm God’s throne of grace demanding that His will be done.  Hold God to His Word.  This pleases Him because you are doing His will. 

Prayer is communicating with our omnipotent God with whom all things are possible.

  

PONDER

This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.

1John 5:14

 

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Point to Ponder 233

Our people are intimidated by "political correctness", which is out of the Marxist handbook.  The idea of tolerance had taken the place of truth.  If we understand God's Word, there's no need to be a reluctant witness, but rather to adopt the boldness of the Apostles.  We need not only to be examples to our children, but also to members of our congregation.  

Bob

THE RELUCTANT WITNESS

Toleration is a contradiction of truth.  Our society is intimidated by political correctness and evidenced in churches.  There’s no need to be a reluctant witness.

Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.” (1 Peter 3:15)  When displaying your confidence and hope in Christ Jesus, eventually someone will ask you the reason for your hope, and then you have an open invitation to introduce the love of God in Christ Jesus.

Practice this approach with those whom you love, after which, you advance into more hostile areas.  Let the Holy Spirit do the work; He’s much more efficient than we. “Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.”  Matthew 10:16.

Practicing and sharing love opens doors that otherwise are shut tight.  Gentleness and generosity are most attractive when serving our God and Savior.

With society awry, it’s time to be a bold witness to God’s love in Christ Jesus.

 

PONDER

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes.  Romans 1:16

 

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Point to Ponder 232

Our world is turned upside down.  People are confused, especially university students enrolled in the bastions of liberalism having their moral foundations seriously eroded.  It's time for us to storm the throne of grace begging our gracious Lord to keep our children in the one true faith.

A blessed New Year to you all.

 

CHANGING VALUES

Hyperinflation fears strikes many hearts.  I’m not referencing our economy, but our moral values.  Declining attendance and membership in Christian churches indicates that our society is focusing more on science, materialism, along with reason, declaring  Christian theology “superstition.  Public education teaches that there’s nothing outside our universe—no creating God, no Savior, only what you feel and see.

Wild promiscuity appeared after a president was publicly exposed for oral sex causing sexual activity going berserk in schools.  Alcohol, drugs together with website porn corrupting marriages and destroying families and creating social chaos. With schools encouraging homosexuality and our current administration honoring same sex marriages, our world is upside down with no moral foundation. When Christ Jesus is replaced with money, popularity, power, sex, etc., we live without Christ, God and hope because we lost our moral compass.

God loves you.  Discover a new life with forgiveness, happiness and hope. It’s a new year!  Live a new life in Christ Jesus.

PONDER

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.  Ephesians 2:8,9

 

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Point to Ponder 231

A Blessed New Year to you all.  Where sin abounds there grace much more abounds and may it be so for the New Year.  Bob

THE NEW YEAR

We love singing Amazing Grace.  It touches our heart.  Grace means God’s undeserving and unconditional love for us sinners. 

It’s that time many will be celebrating the New Year with joyful anticipation that it will be a great one.  How was the last year?  Some of us lost friends and loved ones.  Some lost their jobs or were hospitalized, while others were admitted to some form of nursing care facility.  Aren’t you happy that you didn’t know what the New Year had in store for you?  That too is part of grace.

We’ll repeat the same celebration once again with joyful anticipation that the New Year will be a great one.  We don’t know what the future holds, but if you know why we celebrated the birth of Jesus Christ, you know that our future is in His hands.  With joyful and confident anticipation we will live our lives to His glory until He calls us home.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.   Hebrew 9:28

 

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Point to Ponder 230

We don't get upset if the Bible is burned or discarded because no one can destroy God's Word.  The Muslims hold the Koran as an idol and to destroy it, they destroy their god.  

As we celebrate the birth of our Savior, we celebrate with the greatest joy.  No one, not Satan, not government, not our educational system, nothing can take away the victory our Savior has given us.  

Merry Christmas to all.  Bob

 

THE BIBLE

The Bible is God’s Word in print.  Burn it, destroy paper and ink, but you didn’t touch God’s Word.  Why is that?

Before the galaxies was the Word, the Word God used to call all things into existence—earth followed by our sun, moon and stars. 

On earth God brought forth His greatest miracle—the Word, born of Mary, to dwell among us, redeeming us from sin’s enslavement.  Only God could save us, thus His name—Emanuel—God with us. 

The Word, Emanuel, came to His own, who rejected Him, crucifying Him.  But He rose!  He lives!  The Word incarnate, Jesus Christ, overcame death.

Bible readers are inspired by God’s power receiving salvation, transforming desolation to delight, despair to eternal joy, parched souls to unquenchable springs of flowing water.  The Word lives, therefore we live.  What a gift! 

When we hold the Bible, paper and ink, we hold the indestructible promise and power of God—life and salvation.  Use it!  Don’t lose it!

 

John 1:1-5,14

 

MERRY CHRISTMAS

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Point to Ponder 228

As the days go by quickly, we cling to Jesus' promise of His soon return.  What a marvelous Christmas we should have in such anticipation.  Bob

PEACE

But the wicked are like the tossing sea, which cannot rest, whose waves cast up mire and mud. There’s no peace,” says my God, “for the wicked.”  Isaiah 57-19-21

Satan is determined to stir up dissension by destroying peace and dispensing hatred, not love.  He wants us to rely on worldly wisdom while rejecting God’s wisdom, Christ Himself. 

Two kingdoms: Satan’s and God’s ruled by His Son, Jesus’ Christ.  There’s no compromise only conflict, for which reason followers of Christ are called “the Church Militant.”  Our military is on duty always, and it’s the same for Christians.

In this vale of tears, peace is elusive.  Many  grieve for loved ones lost, and others facing life’s end.  Where’s peace? 

Peace is for those trusting baby Jesus, born of Mary, our substitute carrying our sins, suffering God’s wrath, only to rise again with the promise “Because I live, you also will live.”  John 14:19. 

From cradle to cross Christ is the reason for Christmas.

 

Merry Christmas

 

“Glory to God in the highest heaven, and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests.”

Luke 2:14

 

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Point to Ponder 229

Time marches on in a hurry.  For some it may be going way too fast as they have not discovered their Savior.  This means we have to be dynamic witnesses to the world.

CHURCH HOME

What's a Church Home? Many don't know.  Perhaps you're one of them.

The word "home" has a good sound about it.  A home has nothing to do with how elegant or how modest it is.  Home is where a family lives and loves each other, - where someone weeps when you hurt, and laughs with you when happy.  Home means emotional security, peaceful sleep, nourishing food, clean clothes, and a sense of belonging.      

The Church Home is far more than a building.  It's a large family bonded together by faith in Christ.  It embodies a loving concern for each other, and each member has a sense of belonging because they’re rooted in God's Word.  Spiritual nourishment, lasting values, and rest for the soul is freely offered.

The Church Home is where Christ is. Come to the WELS Christmas Eve and celebrate Christ’s birth.

 

Merry Christmas

 

PONDER

“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.”

 

Matthew 11:28-29

 

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Point to Ponder 227

For what reason do we feel thankful?  How do we give thanks?  Is life so tough that giving thanks is out of the question?  To whom do we give thanks?  All that we have is from our gracious all providing God and Savior, for which reason I wrote this Point.

 

THANKSGIVING

The burial of their brother was the day before. Having arrived after the funeral, the sister went to see the gravesite. As she went her car was struck by a train and she was killed.  Tragedy heaped upon loss wounds the heart deeply. At the funeral, however, in stead of focusing on the great loss, there was a prayer of thanksgiving for God's grace that led them both to know Jesus Christ as their Savior, that heaven was their home, and that they were with God in glory. 

The loss of loved ones still hurts.  We all grieve because the wounds are deep.  But there is a deeper healing as the balm of Christ's love gives healing.  Our grieving over losses doesn't obstruct Christ's victory over death.

In spite of disappointments and great sorrow, we have good reason to "come before him with thanksgiving."  The day is not far off when all believers in Jesus will be with him in glory. 

Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

Philippians 4:6

 

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Point to Ponder 226

In our congregations we are to encourage one another with the rich blessings of God's Word, and not develop gossip groups about a member who has slipped and making a bad judgment.  Built that member up with love.

 

LOVE

The Bible calls for love of each member of a Christian congregation.  We are to love one another as Christ loved us and died for us.

Too often, however, the Christian forgets love to point fingers at a fallen Christian, to judge in jealousy the weakness of another. 

The Bible teaches that love is without pride and selfishness.  It holds no grudges, but forgives freely. 

We do not live in a sterile world free of sin.  We live amid all the evils and trials known to sinful man.

Love does not live in a vacuum, but recognizes the reality in which we live, and moves us to forgive even as we are forgiven for Christ’s sake.  Therefore, let us heed the admonition of Scripture putting aside false piety.  

Paul writes, “For love rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth.”
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Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.

                        1 Corinthians 13:4-8

 

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Point to Ponder 225

Upon graduation from High School and learning that he did not receive the car of his dreams, he figured all was lost and took his own life.  How foolish!  Nevertheless this is happening way too often in our materialist society.  Thus, this Point is written.

 

SUICIDE

When God commanded, “You shall not murder”, that included our own person.  We don’t belong to ourselves.  We have been purchased with the precious blood of God’s own Son, Jesus Christ, and belong to God.  We are to glorify God in our body and in our spirit, which are God’s. 

Yet, suicide is increasing, especially among teen-agers.  This means only one thing: they are without hope and without God in this world. 

After the 2nd world war, with family, homes, everything gone, many Germans took their own life to escape the intense pain of despair.  They knew what they were doing.  In times of crisis Satan assails us with evil, hopeless, suicidal thoughts.  To take one’s own life, or think about it is to deny God’s ability to help in every trouble.  To take one’s life is removing the opportunity of repentance. 

There’s no need for us to despair.  Christ bore our sin, and through His resurrection, He is our hope.  Trust Jesus.  Amen.

 

“…call on me in the day of trouble; I will deliver you, and you will honor me.”

Psalm 50:15

 

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Point to Ponder 223

Would it not be a fantastic witness to our area if we could secure Lambeau field for a REFORMATION service in 2017 and pack the stadium with a soul lifting heart warming worship service?  For that matter, how terrific would it be if wherever you are located, some mass gathering to celebrate 500 years rejoicing over the return of Christ's gospel for all to relish and believe.

REFORMATION

458 years ago this morning, a 30 year old Dr. Martin Luther nailed to the Castle Church door of Wittenberg 95 theses, or statements, some of which soundly condemned the sale of pieces of paper on which were written the forgiveness of sins, a practice, which contradicted the redemption which Christ earned for us. 

Dr. Luther opened the Bible and subjected tradition and reason of that day to the truths of Christ’s gospel.  Thus, we learned: not by merit of the saints, but by grace alone are we saved; and not by our works, but by faith alone in Christ’s redemptive work are we saved; and absolutely not by tradition, but by Scripture alone through which we become wise unto salvation.

The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod subscribes to the Lutheran reformation and confessions without reservation and with confidence that through the clear presentation of Scripture centered in Jesus Christ many will be saved.  Amen.

“These are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in His name.  John 20:31

 

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Point to Ponder 222

Worship attendance is slipping in most Christian congregations.  God who created us is pleased is pleased when we give thanks for all that He has done.  We all need to be found in His house of worship to grow in His wisdom and in His grace. 

SABBATH DAY

If God commanded that we honor the “Sabbath Day”, why do we worship on Sunday? 

Let’s remember that Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness to everyone that believes.  Therefore, we are to stand fast in the liberty where with Christ has made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

We Christians have a liberty in Christ.  In witness of our Christian liberty, we worship on Sunday and do not keep the Sabbath-Day of the Old Testament.

Every day is a good day for worship.  Christians worship on Sunday for it was the first day of the week when the Father began creation of the world, when Christ rose from the dead, when the Holy Spirit established the Christian Church.

Furthermore, we have a “Sabbath Lord” in Jesus Christ.  When His Word dwells in us richly, then we have our true Sabbath, rest for our soul in Jesus.  Let’s worship every day.   Amen

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.  These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
Colossians 2:16.17

 

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Point to Ponder 221

 

As we see our society rejecting God's Word and wisdom, the more problems emerge.  Everyone goes their own way, a broad way that leads to destruction.  We are the light of the world, let's not put a bushel over it.  Let Christ shine offering the rest our souls desperately need. 

RESTING IN CHRIST

God established the Sabbath to give rest for both body and soul.  The Sabbath Day, however, was only a shadow of the true Sabbath in Christ.  You see, the true Sabbath is the peace and rest for the soul through the forgiveness of sins given only through Jesus Christ.

We discover this forgiveness through God’s Word written in the Bible.  “We should fear and love God that we do not despise…his Word.”  We despise His Word when we fail to read, study, or hear it. 

To have a healthy helping of God’s Word, we need to be in the House of the Lord hearing His Word faithfully.  It’s here that our souls are refreshed with inner peace and joy.  These unparalleled gifts are essential for our soul’s rest, gifts which this world cannot give.

Rather than despising His Word, let’s hold it sacred and gladly hear and learn it. 

But these are written … that you may have life in his name.

Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people he chose for his inheritance.  Psalm 33:12

 

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Point to Ponder 219

Instead of the blasphemy that comes out of universities against our Savior, Jesus Christ, how wonderful would it be to hear words of praise, which He deserves above all else.

 

PRAISE HIM

It’s clearly commanded: “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.”  It’s clearly implied: You shall use the name of the Lord your God effectively, reverently.  Instead of dragging Jesus’ name through the muck of man’s indignities and impudence, we should lift the name of the Lord up so that men everywhere may call upon it and be saved.  Why?  For Jesus is come to save His people from their sins. 

How then can we do this?  Praise Him, dear friends, praise Him.  Bless His name forgetting not His benefits.  Praise Him with hymns,  Praise Him with words of adoration.  Praise Him before your spouse and to your children.  Share His love with the loveless, unloved and unlovable.

Identify with Christ at work.  Offer His forgiveness to the down trodden.  Bring Him to your classmates.  Show forth the praises of Jesus who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.  Praise Jesus.

“Sing and  make music in your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks  to God the Father for everything in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.”  Ephesians 5:19-20

 

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Point to Ponder 218

Our world, our society is in a heap of trouble.  It's time we storm the throne of grace to reestablish order and peace that Christ's gospel can be spread everywhere.

PRAYER

When God commanded, “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God,” He was also asking us to use His name correctly.  To do this He commands us to pray, “Call upon me in the day of trouble, I will deliver you, and you will honor me.”  Even the Psalmist writes, ”The Lord is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer.”

There are those who reason, “God knows what’s in my heart; therefore I need not pray.” How clever of Satan to use reason to cancel out Jesus’ promise, “Ask and it shall be given you, seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened unto you.” 

God commands because he wants you to use His name to pray to Him.  This we do through Jesus who promises, ”Whatsoever ye ask the Father in My name He will give it you.” 

As breath is to life so prayer is to the Christian…IT’S VITAL!  Trust Jesus. Amen

“Sing and make music in your heart toward the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of Jesus.  Ephesians 5:19, 20

 

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Point to Ponder 217

AMBASSADORS

When God commanded, “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, ” He wanted us to train our tongues to praise Him.  As preachers we should tremble at the awesome responsibility we have in teaching God’s Word in truth and purity.  We are not to twist His Word to fit our reason, prejudice or traditions.  We all are messenger boys, which are to deliver the Word unaltered. 

No wonder the Lord warns, “Beware of false prophets,” those who teach other than what God’s Word says. 

At the same time, every hearer of God’s Word should take heed teachers with pious smiles, but violate God’s name during the week.

Jesus quoted Isaiah, “This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.”  Jesus says, “Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ be ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.”  Be careful!  We are His ambassadors.

Forgive us Jesus for our hypocrisy.  Amen.

 

I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, “The LORD declares.”  Jeremiah 23:31

 

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